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  • Discussion (Road & General Cycling) :: RE: Shocking news about Dan Staite
    Author: AndyB
    Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:05 pm (GMT 0)
    Topic Replies: 166

    Thomo wrote:
    AndyB wrote:
    This kind of comment annoys me.

    Quote:
    Bob Howden, British Cycling’s Chair of Anti-Doping Commission, said in a statement: “We are naturally disappointed that a cyclist has been found guilty of doping, however, this case shows that the comprehensive testing programme which operates at all levels of the sport is delivering results."


    He was on the juice for ages and you only tested him based on a tip off and even then you allowed him to ride in a race before the test. Yeah, comprehensive my ar53.


    Look British Cycling, there are a few of us in the sport that get the word up front before you announce it. THis case is one of those. for gods sake, speed the whole process up AND like other sports organisations, announce it from the very off-set. IF they are found not guilty then a "non-positive" announcement can be followed up, but you know what - holding on to this along with UKAD for such a long time, your members have lost a little bit more faith in you!
    It annoys me that people like you do not allow due process to conclude before spliing the beans. The entire process from testing to hearing and announcement of the results is enirely down to UKAD. BC have to follow their lead. They have acted correctly in all aspects of this. That other sports announce things early/earlier does NOT make it the correct or better way.
    But I do agree that the length of time to do the process is too long - this could have been all done and settled before the end of May.

    Paul


    bull-whatsit. This pr!ck admitted to doing it to friends and by telling the UKAD team to not bother him is also an admission. So from the day he admitted it and also sent the email, it should have been released.

    This was dealt with and signed off by UKAD in June, why wasnt it released the day after ? oh yeah, build up to the TdF with Team Sky - bad publicity
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  • Discussion (Road & General Cycling) :: RE: VR Fantasy League 2010 Events 31 and 32
    Author: Thomo
    Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:05 pm (GMT 0)
    Topic Replies: 13

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    Paul
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  • Discussion (Road & General Cycling) :: RE: Team Sky - Brailsford's chequebook
    Author: Voodoo
    Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:04 pm (GMT 0)
    Topic Replies: 20

    Thomo wrote:
    Joursans wrote:
    Thomo wrote:
    Joursans wrote:
    two20 wrote:
    I'm pretty sure most sponsors have a love of cycling deep down, you'd have to. It will be good for Sky to reflect, the road is a very different beast. There is always the ToB.

    Deep down Murdoch only has a love of money.
    Murdoch doesn't own Sky... It's a PLC... At least at the moment. The Murdoch family are major shareholders, but not the outright owners - nor are they in charge of the publicity/marketing (of which the team (& the other funded BC schemes) is not the greatest expense either).

    Paul
    You mean owners then - Wink OK so technically not 100%owners but that's not the test (they could be even if it is a PLC - being a PLC does not mean you are publically owned - do you have figures on ultimate benficial ownership? - these are a matter of public record I just CBA to look them up) but are you telling me that shit happens in that organisation that RM doesn't aprove of ?

    Maybe the Sky project is too small to flicker on his radar. My own (admittedly limited) experience of dealing with billionaires would suggest to the contrary, i.e that he would have quite a good handle on what was going on (commercial results - not wins).
    Rupert Murdoch isn't even head of the News Corp anymore... Do keep up!

    Paul


    Yeah he is!
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  • Discussion (Road & General Cycling) :: RE: Team Sky - Brailsford's chequebook
    Author: Thomo
    Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:57 pm (GMT 0)
    Topic Replies: 20

    Joursans wrote:
    Thomo wrote:
    Joursans wrote:
    two20 wrote:
    I'm pretty sure most sponsors have a love of cycling deep down, you'd have to. It will be good for Sky to reflect, the road is a very different beast. There is always the ToB.

    Deep down Murdoch only has a love of money.
    Murdoch doesn't own Sky... It's a PLC... At least at the moment. The Murdoch family are major shareholders, but not the outright owners - nor are they in charge of the publicity/marketing (of which the team (& the other funded BC schemes) is not the greatest expense either).

    Paul
    You mean owners then - Wink OK so technically not 100%owners but that's not the test (they could be even if it is a PLC - being a PLC does not mean you are publically owned - do you have figures on ultimate benficial ownership? - these are a matter of public record I just CBA to look them up) but are you telling me that shit happens in that organisation that RM doesn't aprove of ?

    Maybe the Sky project is too small to flicker on his radar. My own (admittedly limited) experience of dealing with billionaires would suggest to the contrary, i.e that he would have quite a good handle on what was going on (commercial results - not wins).
    Rupert Murdoch isn't even head of the News Corp anymore... Do keep up!

    Paul
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  • Discussion (Road & General Cycling) :: RE: Shocking news about Dan Staite
    Author: Thomo
    Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:54 pm (GMT 0)
    Topic Replies: 166

    AndyB wrote:
    This kind of comment annoys me.

    Quote:
    Bob Howden, British Cycling’s Chair of Anti-Doping Commission, said in a statement: “We are naturally disappointed that a cyclist has been found guilty of doping, however, this case shows that the comprehensive testing programme which operates at all levels of the sport is delivering results."


    He was on the juice for ages and you only tested him based on a tip off and even then you allowed him to ride in a race before the test. Yeah, comprehensive my ar53.


    Look British Cycling, there are a few of us in the sport that get the word up front before you announce it. THis case is one of those. for gods sake, speed the whole process up AND like other sports organisations, announce it from the very off-set. IF they are found not guilty then a "non-positive" announcement can be followed up, but you know what - holding on to this along with UKAD for such a long time, your members have lost a little bit more faith in you!
    It annoys me that people like you do not allow due process to conclude before spliing the beans. The entire process from testing to hearing and announcement of the results is enirely down to UKAD. BC have to follow their lead. They have acted correctly in all aspects of this. That other sports announce things early/earlier does NOT make it the correct or better way.
    But I do agree that the length of time to do the process is too long - this could have been all done and settled before the end of May.

    Paul
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